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Sorry folks but this is about the right price for a quality kit.

So why can Eduard knock out profipack kits with etch, masks and up to eight decal options for much less than a comparable Airfix kit? Much as I like Airfix and the subjects they produce they are not (in my view) of a quality equal to Tamiya or ZM.
I think a large amount of the costs are to do with our geographical location and the high cost of living in the UK and Europe. A few years ago I went to Japan and could have filled a suitcase with dozens of Tamiya and Hasegawa at a fraction of UK prices. I saw the same thing in Estonia where Zvezda kits are cheap as chips - 1/72 Hercules for £32 compared to £50 here.
 
So why can Eduard knock out profipack kits with etch, masks and up to eight decal options for much less than a comparable Airfix kit? Much as I like Airfix and the subjects they produce they are not (in my view) of a quality equal to Tamiya or ZM.
I think a large amount of the costs are to do with our geographical location and the high cost of living in the UK and Europe. A few years ago I went to Japan and could have filled a suitcase with dozens of Tamiya and Hasegawa at a fraction of UK prices. I saw the same thing in Estonia where Zvezda kits are cheap as chips - 1/72 Hercules for £32 compared to £50 here.
Totally agree rick , you can get an excellent newly tooled ICM or Zvezda 1/48 modern jet or helicopter for around £40 so the Airfix bucc is still way too overpriced. As you say its the huge jump thats unneccessary , yes we all know things are going up in price but I think theyre getting a bit greedy .
 
So why can Eduard knock out profipack kits with etch, masks and up to eight decal options for much less than a comparable Airfix kit? Much as I like Airfix and the subjects they produce they are not (in my view) of a quality equal to Tamiya or ZM.
I think a large amount of the costs are to do with our geographical location and the high cost of living in the UK and Europe. A few years ago I went to Japan and could have filled a suitcase with dozens of Tamiya and Hasegawa at a fraction of UK prices. I saw the same thing in Estonia where Zvezda kits are cheap as chips - 1/72 Hercules for £32 compared to £50 here.

Airfix engineering is nearly as good as Tamiya or ZM their problem is production quality and that dreadful plastic. Take a look at the SMS prices and what’s available at, around and higher priced than the Buccaneer.

Revell, Blackbird for £84, Trumpeter J20 for £81, Kitty Hawk £80 for a Flanker - None of those companies are known for quality, Kitty Hawk, the crappiest of them
all……..

Those, by the way, are SMS prices, look at the RRP instead and there are a hell of a lot more at it over £72 and we know we won’t actually pay £72 for the Buccaneer. And, by the way, there is an Eduard MiG 23 in that lot…. Do the price sort and you will see what I mean.

No, I am not at all surprised at the price of the Buccaneer, they just have to resolve their production issues.
 
I'm just going through the order form, they have very few new but lots of re-relases, so they have already covered the cost of the tooling, but for kits that had a RRP of £14.99 in 2020 they are now £23.99, all the kits seem to have gone up a massive amount, I know freight charges and other things have gone up, but not by that sort of a percentage.
 
I'm just going through the order form, they have very few new but lots of re-relases, so they have already covered the cost of the tooling, but for kits that had a RRP of £14.99 in 2020 they are now £23.99, all the kits seem to have gone up a massive amount, I know freight charges and other things have gone up, but not by that sort of a percentage.
I am hearing that a container from China is now approaching 12x the cost is was a year ago.
Airfix was shipping the models from India, so I don't see it being much cheaper from there. ( https://theloadstar.com/crazy-rates...-of-india-after-a-100-premium-to-get-the-box/ )
Although the quick builds are moulded in the UK ???
 
The spray booth i bought a year ago is now £50 more expensive and yes from China
 
Makes the big stash seem a little less unreasonable! :tongue-out3:
Dave
Indeed Dave,
I looked at my stash earlier and thought of what I paid for a lot of them,(lucky to have gathered some quite nice, quality ,kits over the past few years :) )
Must admit to feeling rather pleased with myself,(bordering on smug!!! ;) ), When looking at some current prices!!
 
So why can Eduard knock out profipack kits with etch, masks and up to eight decal options for much less than a comparable Airfix kit? Much as I like Airfix and the subjects they produce they are not (in my view) of a quality equal to Tamiya or ZM.
I think a large amount of the costs are to do with our geographical location and the high cost of living in the UK and Europe. A few years ago I went to Japan and could have filled a suitcase with dozens of Tamiya and Hasegawa at a fraction of UK prices. I saw the same thing in Estonia where Zvezda kits are cheap as chips - 1/72 Hercules for £32 compared to £50 here.
I wouldn't want to not have an existing stash where I am, the cost of new kits is now eye watering. If I were starting out again it would be difficult to justify the cost of nearly all the brands. Even paint and basic tools have gone nuts. Global supply issues and a weakening NZ dollar perhaps?
 
Much the same here Joe. Model building is not high on the hobby list here in Denmark and physical model shops are few and far between.
All things model related are imports and now due to (insert political reason of choice here), Internet shopping is a minefield.
Plastic is public enemy nr.1, Thanks Greta! and the raw material price has taken a beating, the cost of freight has, taxes and duties.
I fear that the Buccaneer for £72 by the time it gets over here is going to be very near to the £90 - £100 mark and as good as it looks, I am never going to (be able to) pay that.

On a different note, The quick kit cars. Is it just me or is that a bloody daft scale they have put them to. 1/43! what is that O gauge? Why. I am sure that there are railway modellers that are pleased, but I think the market for them would be far higher if made in a more 'standard' model car scale.
Also I get the bit where they are aimed at the young new beginer to introduce them to the hobby... But... are they in for a surprise when they pop open the box on a real model and find nothing more than a box full of plastic bits. Unpainted, and they need to use tools and glue to put them together.
 
On a different note, The quick kit cars. Is it just me or is that a bloody daft scale they have put them to. 1/43! what is that O gauge? Why.
Perhaps because it’s a traditional model car scale? :)
 
Now I know that I am in a good position now I am retired, I don’t have to worry what I spend on the hobby (thanks to acting myself on the professional advice I gave to others) and don’t even have a resentful spouse any more telling me I cannot take the hobby into the home…

The current price rises do not really impact on me personally as I can easily afford it, but, of course I know it affects others and I certainly sympathise with their position. Once it would have affected me in the same way, so I do understand. But one thing I have learned is that opportunities always arise in challenging times and markets do change around. I am sure that deals will be had in due course on these more expensive kits and there are always other cheaper kits available. There is a lot of choice in this hobby, thankfully, so it need not be too expensive for most. Is it better to build a high volume of cheaper kits or to save and build fewer of more expensive kits? That is a choice we can all make and there is no right or wrong in that, small comfort as it is.

As someone who built a business and a reputation based on my understanding of economics and the impact on my clients, I am afraid to say though that things can only get worse for a while yet.

Sadly I cannot see a sustained reduction in inflation any time soon and that will be a particular problem to those on a fixed income and, to some extent, that now includes me…

There is simply too much money chasing too few goods, market conditions are driving up prices and wages (in some sectors, which if not offset by productivity, will drive further inflation) and we can expect to see interest rates return gradually to ‘normal’ levels and that means higher with the consequent higher borrowing costs. Taxes too are on the rise from April driven by the need to cover COVID costs (I would have a different approach but that would be too political for here). So I am sorry to say that things will get worse before they get better. I don’t think things will get to be as bad as the 70’s though the alarmist media may well try to draw comparisons.

We will get through this after a very difficult and painful period of adjustment and I am convinced that the U.K. (and world) economy is set for a significant period of sustainable growth over the (slightly) longer term.

in the meantime can I suggest that the following might be helpful to many in getting through this. I speak for professional experience in this. For some this might be telling you the obvious and I apologise for that but it might help others.

1/ Prioritise spending on what is most important and there are others on the web who might better provide advice on this if needed.
2/ Cut out unnecessary spending wherever you can, check your DDMs and Standing Orders, it is easy to forget things going out automatically.
3/ If you do have some spare cash, save into an easy access savings account until you get at least an emergency fund the equivalent of 3 months income.
4/ if you have some spare cash after that and want to seek opportunities to benefit from an eventual economic recovery, then consider monthly investing into stock market tracker funds, being aware that they go down as well as up but, as long as you let it run for at least 5 years you should be onto a winner. Whatever you do returns are not guaranteed and do get professional advice, it is worth it.

I hope that all on here get through this difficult period and prosper when we do. We will get there but the adjustments will be difficult. Happy modelling.
 
As to cost, I think it can also come down to how many hours of enjoyment you get from a kit. If a kit costs 100ukp but gives you 200 hours enjoyment then to me it’s better value than if it costs 25ukp but only gives you 10 hours. Mind you, if 150 of those hours are assembling tracks then the scales may tip the other way LOL.
 
Is it better to build a high volume of cheaper kits or to save and build fewer of more expensive kits?
There is a third side to that too: cheaper kits that you spend a lot of time on, either to superdetail and/or correct them, or to convert them into something else. This would be the most cost-effective, but it does rather depend on having the skill and perseverance to see it through.
 
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