discussion Andrew's 1/72 Tamiya Mosquito Mk XIII

[adt70hk]

Perfectly normal behaviour after inhaling glue and paint fumes like the rest of us. Wanting to make something look right is probably what we all strive for. Keep the excellent work going.

Mick

Sincerest apologies completely forgot to reply! Thanks very much for the support, I do though have to remember though sometimes enough is enough!

ATB

Andrew

 

[Geoffers]

Good stuff Andrew :thumb2:

No point finishing a model that sits on the shelf nagging at you so well done for striving to get it as accurate as possible.

Geoff.

 

[adt70hk]

Ok, so after 3 weeks of faffing I'm calling the nose finished. It shouldn't have taken that long but I've had very little bench time, plus I had to wait for it to arrive from the US.

Without going into the whys wherefores, I have come to the conclusion that the the front of the Tamiya Mossie is slightly too curved to achieve both the nice straight join on the top and the rounded nose.....if you follow the lines it would be too short and come to a point. Not sure if that's a kit issue or the Mk XIII had slightly taller access hatches than a Mk VI.

So the bottom line is it's not a perfect match for LP but it's closer than the AM part as supplied.

Getting it perfectly balanced on each side was tricky and whilst it looks very slightly off under close scrutiny using an optivisor, it should pass muster at even fairly close distance with a Mk I eyeball. It's interesting how even a slight angle change or a shadow gives rise to a seeming change in its shape.


Thanks for your support on this part of the journey and now I can finally crack on with the rest of it!

ATB

Andrew

 

[Tim Marlow]

Ok, so after 3 weeks of faffing I'm calling the nose finished. It shouldn't have taken that long but I've had very little bench time, plus I had to wait for it to arrive from the US.

Without going into the whys wherefores, I have come to the conclusion that the the front of the Tamiya Mossie is slightly too curved to achieve both the nice straight join on the top and the rounded nose.....if you follow the lines it would be too short and come to a point. Not sure if that's a kit issue or the Mk XIII had slightly taller access hatches than a Mk VI.

So the bottom line is it's not a perfect match for LP but it's closer than the AM part as supplied.

Getting it perfectly balanced on each side was tricky and whilst it looks very slightly off under close scrutiny using an optivisor, it should pass muster at even fairly close distance with a Mk I eyeball. It's interesting how even a slight angle change or a shadow gives rise to a seeming change in its shape.


Thanks for your support on this part of the journey and now I can finally crack on with the rest of it!

ATB

Andrew

Looks very good to me Andrew. As to the “slightly off” comments, that impression would be highlighted by the light reflection lines on the plastic. If you go for a fairly matt finish these will be minimised and the problem will become almost invisible.

 

[adt70hk]

Looks very good to me Andrew. As to the “slightly off” comments, that impression would be highlighted by the light reflection lines on the plastic. If you go for a fairly matt finish these will be minimised and the problem will become almost invisible.

Thanks Tim. Good idea!!

I've got the full range of Vallejo resin varnishes and whilst I'd normally do satin for planes, I'll try a mix of Matt and satin as a starting point and see how it goes.

Thanks again.

Andrew

 

[adt70hk]

OK. So a bit more progress. Wings and other sticky out bits on and so it's beginning to resemble a plane at last!!!

I hadn't appreciated on the tailplane how far forward the vertical stabiliser on Mossie was in comparison the horizontal ones. In my admittedly very limited experience, I'm used to them being in line with each other.

I'm just in the process of painting the internal canopy frame lines! What were thinking of!?!?!?!?!?!?....clearly didn't think of your friendly scale modeller when coming up with the idea, especially at 1/72!!

ATB

Andrew

 

[Tim Marlow]

OK. So a bit more progress. Wings and other sticky out bits on and so it's beginning to resemble a plane at last!!!

I hadn't appreciated on the tailplane how far forward the vertical stabiliser on Mossie was in comparison the horizontal ones. In my admittedly very limited experience, I'm used to them being in line with each other.

I'm just in the process of painting the internal canopy frame lines! What were thinking of!?!?!?!?!?!?....clearly didn't think of your friendly scale modeller when coming up with the idea, especially at 1/72!!

ATB

Andrew

If those canopy bars are like the 1/48 ones you’ll have trouble finding them, let alone painting them…..

 

[adt70hk]

If those canopy bars are like the 1/48 ones you’ll have trouble finding them, let alone painting them…..

Indeed..... Actually in my case they're done like a very narrow 'trench' for want of a better phrase. Will try to post pics when I have a minute.

 

[Tim Marlow]

The 1/48 ones were the same Andrew, but were so shallow i ended up with loads of overpainting. It took ages to clean it up with a sharpened cocktail stick afterwards…..

 

[adt70hk]

The 1/48 ones were the same Andrew, but were so shallow i ended up with loads of overpainting. It took ages to clean it up with a sharpened cocktail stick afterwards…..

Know exactly what you mean. I had three goes at in the end before I was happy. In the end it was almost like capillary action with thin paint, with a bit of after-party toothpick action!!

It's still far from perfect but once the external frames are done and at a normal viewing distance without the benefit of an optivisor, it should blend in a bit more. Plus there's no guarantee a fourth attempt will be any better!! :cold-sweat: :cold-sweat:

Pics below....obviously the macro lens on my camera kicked in! And that is my little finger in the background for scale effect!

Not by best work but I was running out of patience with it.....

ATB

Andrew

 

[Lee Drennen]

Andrew glad you got over the “Nose” issue and moving on look very nice.

 

[Tim Marlow]

They look fine Andrew. Even in 1/48 they are hardly noticeable…

 

[Allen Dewire]

Respect Andrew and especially in 1/72 too!!! This is really coming on nicely with the little touches. I didn't even see any on my canopy, let alone attempting to paint them on the inside. Wow!!! The macro pics came good and clear. I did run your fingerprint through a police program though, and found out you are wanted in seven countries over here........

Prost
Allen

 

[Jim R]

Ok, so after 3 weeks of faffing I'm calling the nose finished.

You've done a lot of research, experimenting and head scratching and you gotthere in the end. I would be more than happy with the end result.

 

[Geoffers]

Nice work with the canopy :thumb2:

I’ve “cheated”with mine and used a pre-cut mask set :smiling5:

Geoff.

 

[adt70hk]

Andrew glad you got over the “Nose” issue and moving on look very nice.

They look fine Andrew. Even in 1/48 they are hardly noticeable…

Respect Andrew and especially in 1/72 too!!! This is really coming on nicely with the little touches. I didn't even see any on my canopy, let alone attempting to paint them on the inside. Wow!!! The macro pics came good and clear. I did run your fingerprint through a police program though, and found out you are wanted in seven countries over here........

Prost
Allen

You've done a lot of research, experimenting and head scratching and you gotthere in the end. I would be more than happy with the end result.

Nice work with the canopy :thumb2:

I’ve “cheated”with mine and used a pre-cut mask set :smiling5:

Geoff.

Morning Gents!

Firstly apologies for not being aorund much in the past couple of weeks and not commenting on all your excellent work as much as i'd like. Work has been very busy recently ahead of a HQ visit this coming Monday (I work for a large overseas company) and on Thursday didn't finish until 10pm..... :loudly-crying: :loudly-crying:

Secondly thanks as always for the support, it appreciated!!

Lee - when I checked and saw you must have individually 'liked' about 15 of my posts I was very touched, so thank you

Tim - interestingly the frames are actually more visible in real life but very fine as you say......I can only assume the camera picked up too much of the canopy reflection.

Allen - thanks for the support.....without an optivisor I would not be contemplating doing anything like this in a month of Sundays.....as for being wanted in your country, I'll just have a word with my contacts and I'm sure they will mysteriously disappear!

Jim - Thanks. It's not quite 'perfect' under extremely close scrutiny and but to see it you have to get the angle just right and be directly above or below, so from a normal viewing angle/distance it will pass muster!

Geoff - I too have a mask set but mine only catered for the exterior..:loudly-crying::loudly-crying:


Thanks again chaps! Another very short update to follow shortly!!


ATB

Andrew

 

[adt70hk]

Morning again all

So a very small but important update.....

Monday night was modelling group night and saw me starting work on the undercarriage (not enough to show you on that that though) plus the fixing on the the canopy, meaning LP is all buttoned up!!

Next up some black primer!

ATB

Andrew

 

[The Smythe Meister]

Looking good Andrew
All that painstaking research and experimenting has certainly paid off....... BRING ON THE PRIMER !!

 

[Lee Drennen]

'liked' about 15 of my posts I was very touched, so thank you

Sorry I overwhelmed you with the “Likes” but I read your whole thread and was very interesting and you deserved it. I know some people frown on given so many likes but I just don’t go through every page giving likes just to catch up I actually read them. I know the people who complain about that so I stopped looking at there treads completely. Keep the updates coming.

 

[adt70hk]

Sorry I overwhelmed you with the “Likes” but I read your whole thread and was very interesting and you deserved it. I know some people frown on given so many likes but I just don’t go through every page giving likes just to catch up I actually read them. I know the people who complain about that so I stopped looking at there treads completely. Keep the updates coming.

Lee

I was not overwhelmed in the slightest..... Rather I was genuinely humbled that you took the time to read every post - especially as I do tend to waffle on. So thank you again!!!

ATB.

Andrew