discussion Pete's Beaufighter

[stillp]

Regarding the prop, could you pin the two parts together then fill the join?
Assuming you have both parts.

A pin would be good Karl, but there isn't really enough 'meat' to drill into.

I've heard about tape being used but never tried it. Does it work very well?

Did you mean BMF Andrew? If so then yes, it's very good. It's very thin so doesn't obscure the frame, and being metal it can be burnished down with a cotton bud. I usually finish off with a cocktail stick into the corners. Can be a bit tricky to peel off though.

Thanks for your comments chaps.
Pete

 

[adt70hk]

A pin would be good Karl, but there isn't really enough 'meat' to drill into.

Did you mean BMF Andrew? If so then yes, it's very good. It's very thin so doesn't obscure the frame, and being metal it can be burnished down with a cotton bud. I usually finish off with a cocktail stick into the corners. Can be a bit tricky to peel off though.

Thanks for your comments chaps.
Pete

Sorry yes.... Changed my original post. Thanks

 

[stillp]

Every little helps, to coin a phrase:

Pete

 

[adt70hk]

Every little helps, to coin a phrase:

Pete

Thanks Pete!!

 

[The Smythe Meister]

Every little helps, to coin a phrase:
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Pete

Certainly taking shape now Pete:thumb2:,
Looking very nice indeed,some lovely detail on the surfaces aren`t there?...... any progress on "Propgate" ?:thinking:
Andy

 

[stillp]

Certainly taking shape now Pete:thumb2:,
Looking very nice indeed,some lovely detail on the surfaces aren`t there?...... any progress on "Propgate" ?:thinking:
Andy

Yes, it doesn't look too bad, as long as you don't look too closely! I'll put a photo up when I've got some paint on them.
Pete

 

[Tim Marlow]

Looking good Peter. Nice use of BMF for masking. I’ve only ever used that stuff on car build chrome trim, for which it is excellent. Doesn’t the glue bond get stronger with time though? Just wondered because I can imagine a time in a protracted build where the foil becomes impossible to remove cleanly at all.

 

[stillp]

I've not had a problem removing it when I've used it in the past Tim.
Pete

 

[stillp]

Added some more clear bits:

The landing light went in easily. The wingtip lights were a pain though - they're tiny, and the shape is difficult to hold. Got them on after a bit of a struggle. Using the Formula 560 canopy glue that I found in an "everything £1" box at the St Ives show. It's runnier than the Gator's Grip I usually use, but Gator's is an endangered species of glue since the California wildfire. :disappointed2:
Also painted up the rockets and assembled the rocket rails, which will get a coat of paint tomorrow with a bit of luck.

The main gear wheels are already painted:

I removed the navigator's canopy and masked his cockpit with wet tissue instead. I haven't decided whether to use the closed undercarriage doors as a mask for the u/c bays, or to fill the bays with wet tissue.
Pete

 

[Jim R]

Looking the part now Pete. Providing it doesn't prove too difficult to remove that Bare Metal Foil masking looks good - very neat.

 

[scottie3158]

Pete,
Coming on nicely.

 

[stillp]

Starting to splash some paint on:

Masked with a mix of tape, wet tissue, foil, and masking fluid. Got a bit carried away with the fluid though:

Spot the mistake?
The rearmost light on the wingtip is a recognition light, and only the small cylindrical part that sticks out at the back should be clear, the rest is shrouded so didn't need masking. The fluid (Mr Masking Sol R) came off alright, but the clear lens came away from the wing, so no more painting until the glue sets on that!
Pete

 

[stillp]

I'd hoped to make a more interesting post tonight, but spotted some areas of the EDSG that needed a touch-up, so the masking will stay on for now. Here it is before I spotted the faulty areas:

Pete

 

[The Smythe Meister]

I'd hoped to make a more interesting post tonight, but spotted some areas of the EDSG that needed a touch-up, so the masking will stay on for now. Here it is before I spotted the faulty areas:

Pete

STILL looks good to me P ...
... See what I did there?!!
I just like these planes,and I think it's coming threat

 

[Guest]

Bmf, can any one explain what and how it's used, never heard of it before ( I live a sheltered life don't think there's any call for it in Russian Armour of WW2 )

 

[Tim Marlow]

Bmf, can any one explain what and how it's used, never heard of it before ( I live a sheltered life don't think there's any call for it in Russian Armour of WW2 )

It is more or less exactly what it sounds like John. BMF is a self adhesive thin metal foil.
https://www.bare-metal.com/index.html
It’s primary use is for recreating chrome trim on model cars. You cut a suitably sized piece out, stick it over the trim area, burnish it smooth with cotton buds and blunt implements, then trim off the excess with a new scalpel blade. It is actually much simpler than it sounds and is very effective, much more so than trying to paint the trim. You get a sharper and more “chrome like” appearance using it. It comes in several colours as well.
Pete is using it here in a similar fashion to mask the cockpit glazing. Far easier to get it into the corners than using masking tape, and it cuts cleaner when in place.

 

[KarlW]

It is more or less exactly what it sounds like John. BMF is a self adhesive thin metal foil.
https://www.bare-metal.com/index.html
It’s primary use is for recreating chrome trim on model cars. You cut a suitably sized piece out, stick it over the trim area, burnish it smooth with cotton buds and blunt implements, then trim off the excess with a new scalpel blade. It is actually much simpler than it sounds and is very effective, much more so than trying to paint the trim. You get a sharper and more “chrome like” appearance using it. It comes in several colours as well.
Pete is using it here in a similar fashion to mask the cockpit glazing. Far easier to get it into the corners than using masking tape, and it cuts cleaner when in place.

Also used to be the best way of recreating natural metal finishes on aircraft. (Maybe it still is.) You can scuff some panels and polish others to create differing sheens.

 

[Guest]

It is more or less exactly what it sounds like John. BMF is a self adhesive thin metal foil.
https://www.bare-metal.com/index.html
It’s primary use is for recreating chrome trim on model cars. You cut a suitably sized piece out, stick it over the trim area, burnish it smooth with cotton buds and blunt implements, then trim off the excess with a new scalpel blade. It is actually much simpler than it sounds and is very effective, much more so than trying to paint the trim. You get a sharper and more “chrome like” appearance using it. It comes in several colours as well.
Pete is using it here in a similar fashion to mask the cockpit glazing. Far easier to get it into the corners than using masking tape, and it cuts cleaner when in place.

Thanks Tim, the first time and last I had to add chrome I used one of those pens.

 

[Guest]

I must admit it took me some thought to work out what BMF was supposed to be when I first read it in this thread, and then I remembered that a lot of the old modelling handbooks mentioned “bare-metal foil” for the purposes Tim and Karl described, and the penny dropped

 

[stillp]

Masking (most of) removed, a few touch-ups done.

'Hedgehog' exhausts will be painted tomorrow. Next job will be the torpedo and rockets, then the undercarriage.
Pete