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Sanding Timber to the required thickness

radish

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I needed something to be able to make the timber I required for the models to be of a very uniform thickness, so I checked on the web and found a working drawing for a Thickness Sander.
This was tad on the larger size for the timber bits that I required, so I drew it up to a size that what I reckoned, would be about the correct sized machine, for what I needed.
Found a bit of scrap Aluminium sheet at work and the boss said - ‘go’.
Mainly of Aluminium construction and has a sheet of 1mm glass on the rise and fall table, to enable easy pushing of the timber thru the sander. It has two drums for the sanding, they are loaded with different grades of Emery Paper, one coarse and the other fine. Easy to change the drums, whenever they are needed to be changed.
This works so well, I can keep shoving a bit of timer into the machine until it was about 0.010 thous thick, the next time thru the sander it turns to $hite. The timber was so thin, you can hold it up to the light and nearly see thru it, but it showed all the tiny minute grain holes that the timber has.
The table is raised by the hand wheel underneath the front of the table, the thread is M14 x 2, so with the drum at the centre of the table, as you raise it one turn, the table raises 1mm, it’s very accurate and the thickness can be controlled very very easily.
The timber I use for my models is of the Beech family, it’s Tasmanian Myrtle, the grain is just about non existent, it is a very, very fine grained timber, that could be used from 1/87 th scale right thru to full sized furniture, bloody marvellous stuff actually.
It takes a coat of paint just like a sheet of polystyrene, big bonus actually, you can give it an undercoat WITHOUT any grain standing up and ruining the fine finish that I am after. If some grain does try to rear its ugly head, then a used toothbrush rubbed over any imperfections, soon removes it. The only time I have to do any sanding, is if I have stuffed it up and got some runs on the model.
Now other modellers use the actual timber that the full sized item is made from, but to me, some of these timbers have a very opened large pored grain.
So when you use it in a model, it actually looks like crap with bloody great big holes in it from all the open pores in the grain.
Choice is your’s alone to use whatever Timber you want too, but take a close look at the timber you want to use and think of what it would look like when it’s used on a model, would it have any big unsightly holes showing in the finish of the timber.
So as you can see, it takes a lot more effort, than just buying another sheet of whatever thickness that is required of polystyrene, or some more bit’s of Evergreen, plus some more glue, to make one of these “scratchbuilt” models.
Not only do I have to make the timber the correct thickness, I have had to make the machinery that can do all this for me as well.
Anybody got any questions ? ------

A few photo’s showing the Thickness Sander, followed by a photo showing the grain in the timber I use, Tasmanian Myrtle ( Northafagus Cunninghamii ) WITHOUT any pore hole craters showing AT ALL.


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So when you use it in a model, it actually looks like crap with bloody great big holes in it from all the open pores in the grain.
Choice is your’s alone to use whatever Timber you want too, but take a close look at the timber you want to use and think of what it would look like when it’s used on a model, would it have any big unsightly holes showing in the finish of the timber.
So as you can see, it takes a lot more effort, than just buying another sheet of whatever thickness that is required of polystyrene, or some more bit’s of Evergreen, plus some more glue, to make one of these “scratchbuilt” models.
Not only do I have to make the timber the correct thickness, I have had to make the machinery that can do all this for me as well.
Anybody got any questions ? ------

Interesting post, and the work involved in preparing your own timber stock is obviously impressive. Building the machinery to do it is a project in itself, so credit where it’s due.

That said, I’m not sure it’s quite the comparison you’re making it out to be. Scratchbuilding in wood is one discipline. Working in styrene is another. Both take skill, patience, and a fair bit of experience to make look convincing.

Polystyrene and Evergreen aren’t really the “easy option” you seem to be hinting at. Plenty of modellers produce incredibly detailed scratchbuilt work in styrene, and they’re not just gluing bits together and calling it done. Same with resin, metal, or wood for that matter.

Different materials, different techniques.

Most people here build for enjoyment, not to prove which material requires the most effort. If someone enjoys milling their own timber and building machines to do it, great. If someone else enjoys working with styrene sheet and plastic strip, that’s great too.

At the end of the day the finished model is what matters, not the material it started from.

But by all means, keep posting the process. It’s always interesting to see how different people approach scratchbuilding.

And don’t worry, I’m sure the Evergreen and polystyrene crowd will somehow manage to struggle on without having to build a small timber mill first.
 
That's the same system that is used on professional sanders for woodworking shops. Depending on the grit being used its a perfect way to reduce the thinkness .

I found Bass wood to be free of large knots and grain.
 
That's a lovely bit of kit, @radish - I struggle to drill a straight hole in a piece of wood, never mind building dedicated woodworking machinery like this.

One of the lovely things about this forum is that we embrace and encourage people with skillsets at all levels, using all sorts of different techniques and approaches. I'm sure you weren't intending to denigrate the work of anyone using different materials, with different skills to yours - but you're completely right to take pride in what you do: it's really, really impressive.

At the end of the day the finished model is what matters, not the material it started from.

I'm with @John on this. I've made complicated models out of paper and thin card - a pretty unforgiving medium, especially if you're trying to create compound curves! But the end result needs to look like what it is supposed to represent, and I'm always surprised that the raw material seems to 'disappear' as the model takes shape, and the paper is transformed into a stone castle, a metal fire engine, or even a bunch of flowers.

Vive la difference!
 
I am sorry that you feel that those that work in plastic are it appears below your station. I worked in the aviation industry and in particular the 'mock up' shop where we used a variety of materials from metal through plastic, plexiglass, wood etc to plans and tolerances that are what is required in the industry. As a model maker I work in not only plastic but also brass (not etched) but I do use etched sets where available and of course plastic. And if a piece of plastic is not to the required thickness I want I will build a jig to accept said item and then sand it to the thickness I want.
You have shown that you can manufacture an item that fits your requirements to do the job you want, but plastic modellers who scratchbuild or convert also work their way through the problems they come across and it is not always cured with Tamiya putty, but with skill and experience, and like myself probably have the Gold, Silver and Bronze certificates and medals to show that.
But keep us appraised of your work as I am sure that we as modelmakers enjoy watching a project come together, along with all the problem solving as well.
 
A firm by the name of Proxxon make all manner of miniture shop tools. From a mini table saw to a vertical mill.

But half the fun is building the tools as well I guess. My small dabbling into the model woodwork I have always gotten by with a mini plane, and some good quality sand paper. ( made by Bosch. I think its call Bosch Gold. Cuts quick and lasts for a long time.
We are not just a bunch of plastic butchers here. We are welcoming of all media. Wood, metal, paper, resin, plastic both kits and scratch builds. And more 3D printed things are turning up. The ultimate? Super detail? Push button models.... maybe, but the big kick behind those are the 100's of hours making the CAD model (some recon...)
 
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