discussion Cyano Warning!

[ojays]

Doing a bit of modelling last night, as always on a board on the floor.


Happily gluing away, unscrewed the top off my bottle of Cyano.


Only I hadn't just unscrewed the top but unnoticed, the nozzle as well.


I turned the bottle to glue the particular part, only to empty the full bottle over the part, fingers and modelling board.


Grabbing a handful of tissues with my free hand, proceeded to wipe said pool of cyano on my modelling board.


What I didn't expect, was for the tissues to start smoking and burst into flames.


The fumes were acrid and the flame intense, luckily I had a bottle of water next to me which I poured on the flaming mess.


I knew that Cyano had some nasty qualities, however I never expected to have an indoor Barbie on my living room floor.


I'm still removing tissue from my fingers this morning, but happily my Gato escaped undamaged.


Just thought I would pass this warning on.


Gregg

 

[colin m]

Wow. Glad you are ok, well it could have been so much worse. But thanks for the warning.

 

[eddiesolo]

Glad you're okay Gregg...nasty stuff. This has happened to me with Cyano and foam, didn't realise it until smoke wisping up from the dio board-luckily no flames.


Si.

 

[Guest]

Yes nasty stuff al the way around. I clean the metal applicator using a lighter flame and that small amount sizzles.


Best containers are the Loctite which are sealed except for the outlet. To get any out of the container you have to press both sides to get Cyno through the nozzle. Then only a drop as you have to repress to get more.


Loctite also came top in the Which thingy. Although a lot of named Cyno types were not in the experiment.


Laurie

 

[Guest]

Glad to hear you are ok, that's kinda scary, one of the reasons other than the smell I don't like super glue.


scott

 

[Neil]

See, the "experimental scientist", OK, uncontrolled tinkerer and "wonder how that works?" part of me wants to take some tissues in a tin outside and put some superglue on just to see if I can reproduce this behaviour. This is probably not the right attitude and does rather explain the pile of things I took apart and fully intend at some point to put back together in my garage.

 

[takeslousyphotos]

Glad you are ok ......... A lot of the stuff we use in modelling can be hazardous ........ Apart from the obvious like sharp things and thinners and other obvious flammables ........ One hazard i'm always wary of that a lot of people either aren't aware of or don't give a second thought ....... Is spontaneous combustion........ I always remember after my apprenticeship that rags and cloths with flammables on, under right conditions can ignite on their own ............ So I never ball them up and chuck them in the bin indoors........ If I'm going to dump them, I spread them out and hang them in the garage overnight first.


Peter

 

[spanner570]

Close call Gregg, good to read you are o.k.


This is the reason I get my 'super glue' from the Poundshop......You get three small tubes in a pack, each has a fine nozzle. so can be applied straight from the tube and no danger of accidents.

 

[yak face]

Wow thanks for the warning Gregg , glad to hear you're OK and the gato survived!!. I've never heard of this with superglue before , it's totally unexpected, were the tissues soaked in any other solvent ?hopefully someone who knows about chemicals and suchlike will explain why this happens and help us all to avoid it happening again, cheers tony

 

[Guest]

Most times I do not use it straight from the bottle.


I have a load of plastic disposable shot glasses from the pound shop. Made from sprue a holder so that the glass is held at 45%. Squirt a small amount in the bottom and then use a needle stuck in sprue the needle having the top of the eye removed. The holder is removable but is secured to the work top in use with velcro. Hands free for Super Glue work and little danger.


Also keep an unglue bottle incase of a problem. Amazing how it sticks to everything except the thing you want stuck.


Laurie

 

[PaulTRose]

and never get ca on cotton cos it will smoke and get very hot................and stick to skin as well if they are cotton gloves!...speak from experience


i almost exclusivly use ca,...what i do is squeeze a blob out onto a bit of card and use a cocktail stick to apply it

 

[Ian M]

I posted a similar warning last year. It works with cotton wool as well.


Glad you are ok.

 

[ojays]

Thanks for all the comments, they're greatly appreciated.


I usually put a couple of drops onto an old CD, then use one of Johns magical applicators.


Just a bit of impatience on my part, not wanting to look for a new applicator to put in it's handle.


With regards the tissues, they were a new box of Andrex 'Man Size Tissues', that I always have to hand when working.


I just grabbed a handful and piled them on the pool of cyano, to try to soak up the bigger part of it to stop it spreading.


I was trying to unstick the part from my fingers, when my wife asked if it was normal for my 'usual pile of tissues' to be smoking.


When I looked, there was a red glow and white smoke, which then turned into small flames.


After dosing the pile in flavoured water, 'apple & mango' flavour, I grabbed the pile (which was now rock hard) and threw them out into the garden.


The upside is, it has given me an idea how to reproduce scale model flags, or canvas tarpaulins.


But I will do the experimenting in the garden!


Gregg

 

[flyjoe180]

It also smokes on rubber...