Hi Alan
No, they need the team. The stars are only stars because of the domestiques giving their all for the team leader.
No, they need the team. The stars are only stars because of the domestiques giving their all for the team leader.
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Don't worry guys I've bought in a special supply of extra slow drying paint we can all watch when the Euro games are on.... :smiling2:
If you can stomach this
it would be funny, until you realise these guys earn more in 5 minutes than you do in a year, and are held up as 'sportsmen'
Dave
Dave
To be fair i love footy and for my sins ( lots ) have supported Cardiff City for all my life and always will.
But the acting should be punished, even if its after the game. The quicker football follows rugby by introducing the 10 min sin bin the better. What makes me laugh is people rightly complain when a boss of a big company gets a big wage packet but say bugger all when a football player gets £300,000 a week, waiting for a big club to go bang, it will happen soon.
Forgot come on Wales, sorry !!
But the acting should be punished, even if its after the game. The quicker football follows rugby by introducing the 10 min sin bin the better. What makes me laugh is people rightly complain when a boss of a big company gets a big wage packet but say bugger all when a football player gets £300,000 a week, waiting for a big club to go bang, it will happen soon.
Forgot come on Wales, sorry !!
You can add me to the list of football haters for all the reasons stated. To be honest I am not really a fan of any sport and I too have not watched a football match since 1966 when I was too young to know better. Friday evening my missus watched the game in one room while I was on Netflix in the lounge before popping into the garage for an hour at the bench.
Never mind girls, your soap operas will be back on soon…..until then, I’ll enjoy the football.
OMIGOD!!...."C`mon WALES"?!!:dizzy: ......And to think i used to like you Bob!!
Although you did redeem yourself with the latter comment mate!!:thumb2::tears-of-joy:
Andy
I knew I'd opened a can of worms, but it's nice to see so many excited people :smiling3: .
Tim: I meant no disrespect to Erikson. I fully sympathise with any sportsperson that suffers any kind of real injury. It's all the fakery I can't stand. And yes, it happens in rugby too.
Jim: Am I right in thinking that the Tour de France winner gets all the fortune and glory, while his team mates who create the victory for him are promptly forgotten by everyone except diehard fans?
Tim: I meant no disrespect to Erikson. I fully sympathise with any sportsperson that suffers any kind of real injury. It's all the fakery I can't stand. And yes, it happens in rugby too.
Jim: Am I right in thinking that the Tour de France winner gets all the fortune and glory, while his team mates who create the victory for him are promptly forgotten by everyone except diehard fans?
Be nice if they had to pay a fine as well. Loss of earnings might start persuading them to play fairly.
G
I don’t particularly care for football, or pretty much any sport (though I kind of like cycling, partly because the countryside and spectators are often interesting to see 
) but guys … you do realise that you’re griping about the kind of things pretty much everyone would do when in the same position, right?
The main one seems to be high salary top footballers get, for supposedly doing very little. Blame the salary on the clubs and the media: if they weren’t asking, respectively willing to pay, so much for broadcast rights, the players wouldn’t be getting that much money either. Or to turn this around: the players simply want a share of all the cash they see the clubs make, because the club wouldn’t be making it without the players. This is no different from factory workers demanding higher wages when the company is doing well.
The players’ haircuts and other flamboyancy is simply a result of having a lot of money and being of the current extravert generation. Pretty much everyone ever in history who had a lot of money, went about showing it off to others. High-level footballers, being the kind of people who are used to (and enjoy) being in the spotlight, just tend to do this in more obvious ways than, say, a nerdy IT billionaire or a fantasy writer who might spend it on sportscars, an aircraft museum, a gigantic yacht, or, oh, I don’t know, a football club.
Oh yeah, and all the “football is dull” memes are (almost certainly) American, who (not to put too fine a point on it) don’t understand the sport. The first part of this video explains the reasons pretty well:
) but guys … you do realise that you’re griping about the kind of things pretty much everyone would do when in the same position, right?The main one seems to be high salary top footballers get, for supposedly doing very little. Blame the salary on the clubs and the media: if they weren’t asking, respectively willing to pay, so much for broadcast rights, the players wouldn’t be getting that much money either. Or to turn this around: the players simply want a share of all the cash they see the clubs make, because the club wouldn’t be making it without the players. This is no different from factory workers demanding higher wages when the company is doing well.
The players’ haircuts and other flamboyancy is simply a result of having a lot of money and being of the current extravert generation. Pretty much everyone ever in history who had a lot of money, went about showing it off to others. High-level footballers, being the kind of people who are used to (and enjoy) being in the spotlight, just tend to do this in more obvious ways than, say, a nerdy IT billionaire or a fantasy writer who might spend it on sportscars, an aircraft museum, a gigantic yacht, or, oh, I don’t know, a football club.
Oh yeah, and all the “football is dull” memes are (almost certainly) American, who (not to put too fine a point on it) don’t understand the sport. The first part of this video explains the reasons pretty well:
The Tour de France winner does get all the glory and can probably name his own salary for the future but all prize monies are shared between the team. To the casual observer the 'stars' like Chris Froome dominate the race but only a good, organise supporting team will make it possible. Team members will give their all to protect the leader. I love watching it :thumb2:
I can’t stand the cheating and diving either Dave, but I get irate when people put up rugby players as models of bravery and chivalry and continually compare them positively to footballers. They are not these paragons of virtue…..they are paid professional players, and like any other sportsmen of that ilk they will bend or break the rules to gain advantage if they think they can get away with it. As to taking “pain” better, well, no sense no feeling I suppose!
I also have an issue with international rugby national eligibility, I think if your dads mates grans next door neighbour was a bottle washer for Brains brewery in Cardiff you could get a game for wales, and the majority of the All Black team actually come from the islands, not New Zealand!
I also have an issue with international rugby national eligibility, I think if your dads mates grans next door neighbour was a bottle washer for Brains brewery in Cardiff you could get a game for wales, and the majority of the All Black team actually come from the islands, not New Zealand!
Jakko - it's nice to know I'm not the only one who occasionally watches a bit of cycling just to look at the scenery! 
Nick
Nick
Hi John
I did mention the doping problems that has plagued professional cycling. I think that the widespread doping of the Armstrong years are hopefully over now. In all sport there will always be "cheats" but I believe that they are a tiny minority.
Jim
I did mention the doping problems that has plagued professional cycling. I think that the widespread doping of the Armstrong years are hopefully over now. In all sport there will always be "cheats" but I believe that they are a tiny minority.
Jim
G
Cycling has a bad reputation for doping, but that really dates back about 20 years already. Back then, it was rife, but because of the very great clampdown on it since then, there is probably not any more of it going on than in any other sport. As for electric bikes, look up Femke Van den Driessche.
Saw a bit of the tour de france once and speaking of cheats there was a guy at the back on a motorbike !!! :surprised:
That was Lance Armstrong having a rest Tony :tongue-out3:
I suspect you're right there Tim. The influx of money has spoiled a lot of sports. Seems that winning at all costs is bringing cheating to a new art form and any kind of gamesmanship is considered fair.
Mind you, that's nothing new. Many (many) years ago I played Pool at my local pub and we got a team together to play in the local league. Everyone paid a weekly subscription to register and be allowed to play in the league. Because of the number of teams, the league was divided into two divisions. Selection into the divisions was done at random in the first year, with promotion and relegation of the top and bottom three teams at the end of the season.
The league was run by a group of guys who played for the pub that initially set up the league and they were naturally in the first division, while my pub was in the second.
At the end of the season, various cash prizes were shared out amongst the teams depending on their final places in the league table. The first division obviously got the lion's share of the prizes which was sort of reasonable. Unfortunately, the lions share was so big that prize payouts in the second division suffered badly. My team came 3rd of about 15 teams and we didn't win enough to cover the subscriptions we'd paid so we ended up out of pocket, and I think only the winning team in the second division actually made a profit. I know that the majority of teams will always lose out, but our thoughts were that doing well enough to earn promotion should have been good enough to at least get our money back.
Despite many complaints, the original organisers - who won the first division and decided the prize monies - were so greedy and adamant that their division of the prize money was fair that over half the teams refused to join again so the league folded.
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