discussion Wingnut Wings 1/32 Halberstadt Cl.II (late)

[Mickc1440]

Great work on those decals Allen and good luck with the next stage

 

[Tim Marlow]

Very good work Allen. The decals have been beaten into submission and look great. It really is the only way to do that pattern I think, and it has to be done as it’s so iconic to the subject. If you end up with any stubborn decal areas that won’t snug down pricking very fine holes in the decal with a sharp scalpel blade will let the micro sol in underneath and allow the trapped air out as the decal settles again.

You’ve got to give the Iwatta a go as well. It is honestly easier to use and clean than the Aztek, and does make it easier to produce fine lines and spray small areas.

 

[Guest]

Well Youngerthan me, you have beaten the decal god into submission, and they do look the business. Had a think about your mottle camo on the fuselage - spray the base colour and then use a sponge to add the 'mottle'. Keep up the good work, and remember when out for the bottle digesting write 'Other Way Up' on the bottom of your boots....
Prost
Olderthan you...

 

[JayCee]

As the others have said, excellent Decal work. I would probably have them on me and not the model .
John.

 

[Allen Dewire]

As I said Allen great stuff your nuts must be well chuffed ,strange one that how can nuts be chuffed im sure someone will tell us but please can it be started in a new chit chat bit rather than clog up up Allen's build. Dave

Dave, your killing me Buddy!!! I'm happy as can be, but I don't know about chuffed nuts...I guess they're like roasted cashews??? If somebody does know, it's ok if they post the answer in this thread. Thanks my friend...

Great work on those decals Allen and good luck with the next stage

Thanks Mick, but there are more to do and then work on the fuselage to get it painted. Then more work with the 'nasties'...

Very good work Allen. The decals have been beaten into submission and look great. It really is the only way to do that pattern I think, and it has to be done as it’s so iconic to the subject. If you end up with any stubborn decal areas that won’t snug down pricking very fine holes in the decal with a sharp scalpel blade will let the micro sol in underneath and allow the trapped air out as the decal settles again.

You’ve got to give the Iwatta a go as well. It is honestly easier to use and clean than the Aztek, and does make it easier to produce fine lines and spray small areas.

Hey Tim, I've been pricking holes for 2 days now to get them to lie flat. So far, so good. I did give the Iwata a try yesterday to paint the stripes in the rear wing. Appreciate the compliment and more below Sir...

Well Youngerthan me, you have beaten the decal god into submission, and they do look the business. Had a think about your mottle camo on the fuselage - spray the base colour and then use a sponge to add the 'mottle'. Keep up the good work, and remember when out for the bottle digesting write 'Other Way Up' on the bottom of your boots....
Prost
Olderthan you...

Hey, Olderthanme, I thought about the sponge trick for the mottling, but I have to use 3 or 4 different brands of paint to have all the colors I need. I will practice that method to see if I get the results I need. If not, then it's AB spray 'o' rama for it. No need to for the signage on my shoe bottoms, cause at my age, I can only drink one!!! PM ya in the morn...

As the others have said, excellent Decal work. I would probably have them on me and not the model .
John.

Thanks John and there was one that did end up on my finger, and then on the tweezers, before I finally got it on the tail fin. I had one fold over on me too. The air did get a bit blue after that...

Yesterday, I finally tried out the Iwata and sprayed the black stripes on the rear wing. They were pretty easy to mask, but the flappy ribbing wasn't 100% aligned with the wing ribbing. Anyway, I mixed up a small batch of Tamiya X-1 flat black, 60-40 with IPA and gave the AB a try. It worked really well although, it is heavier than my Aztek and was weird to hold in my hand to use, with the air hose underneath, in the middle. After I sprayed the black, I immediately cleaned it for fear of screwing it up,


Only one little oopsy and that was the right outside black stripe, where I didn't get the masking right. Just my bad luck, as it's on the top side of the wing,


The underside isn't perfect either, but the paint went down good and there were no runs under the masking. The rest of the yesterday was spent pricking holes and dabbing M Sol on the wings, to get the decals to snuggle down flat on the ribbing...

Woke up this morning and took a look at the rest of the sheet of 'nasties',


There were still some big ones to apply, so I went at it. I did the fin crosses (27,28 & 33,34) first as they were 2 piece affairs and also seemed a nightmare to do. I eventually got them on after they broke into pieces, stuck to my fingers, to the tweezers, and one piece folding over and sticking to itself. Kept my cool and finally got them done. It was too early for a cold one, so I went on and added the crosses to the wings (30 & 12, 13, 22 & 25). No probs here and the nerves were back to normal in a flash!!! The results of my escapades,


I can live with this!!! Other than the fin, they're all straight and they line up on the top wings too. I got lucky (again) I guess, LOL!!!

That's it for tonight, time for bed. Have a good week and once again, thanks for looking in!!!

Prost
Allen

 

[Guest]

This confirms my earlier thoughts, you are indeed MAD, but clever.
Nice job Dude1

 

[Guest]

It worked really well although, it is heavier than my Aztek and was weird to hold in my hand to use, with the air hose underneath, in the middle.

That, IMHO, is the greatest advantage of the Aztek: there isn’t a sticky-out bit in the middle of the airbrush getting in the way of holding it comfortably.

 

[Tim Marlow]

That, IMHO, is the greatest advantage of the Aztek: there isn’t a sticky-out bit in the middle of the airbrush getting in the way of holding it comfortably.

Never really found that myself. I did find the heavier Iwata makes finer work easier though. The greater mass of the AB dampens movement inertia so it doesn’t wobble about so much in use.

 

[Guest]

I find the thing that the air hose goes into, gets in the way of my fingers. I normally hold the airbrush in such a way that the upper side of my middle finger is against the back of it, and I don’t find that too comfortable. Not bad, but it would be much easier if that projection wasn’t there in the first place

 

[Tim Marlow]

I find the thing that the air hose goes into, gets in the way of my fingers. I normally hold the airbrush in such a way that the upper side of my middle finger is against the back of it, and I don’t find that too comfortable. Not bad, but it would be much easier if that projection wasn’t there in the first place :smiling3:

Might be worth trying one of the spray gun style brushes now on the market Jakko. I think Barry has several and gets on very well with them. Interesting how other modellers hold the AB though. Wasn’t it Simon T that used to use an Aztec, but operated the trigger with his thumb?

 

[Guest]

Now you mention it, I think he may have said something to that effect at some point. I had been thinking that a pistol-grip airbrush might suit me, but I would need an opportunity to try one first — I don’t want to be spending a couple hundred euros, only to find I don’t get along with it …

 

[Mini Me]

Jakko, buy the cheapo attachment for a rattle can and play with that. If you find you can control a rattle can with a pistol grip and trigger, you'll do just fine with an A/B pistol grip style gun.

 

[scottie3158]

Dude,
looking very fine mate some lovely work going on.

 

[tr1ckey66]

Great progress Alan, the Halberstadt is really coming together.
I really like the look of the lozenge finish on German WW1 aircraft and the decals you’ve laid down really look the part. It seems that you’re going for the same scheme I will going for - great choice. Looking forward to seeing this complete your work thus far has been excellent and the finished model promises to be a real show stopper.
Cheers
Paul

 

[Guest]

Jakko, buy the cheapo attachment for a rattle can and play with that. If you find you can control a rattle can with a pistol grip and trigger, you'll do just fine with an A/B pistol grip style gun.

I did see that accessories are sold to turn a normal airbrush into a pistol-grip one, I may want to see if I can find a cheapish one of those that fits an Iwata.

 

[adt70hk]

Mr Dewire

Just had a catch-up old chap. Apologies for the tardiness but ones studies have not been assistful in keeping up with this most splendid of kit assemblages.

The markings of all varieties are most delightful and one must be congratulated on their most satisfactory application.

One cannot wait for the wingy bits to be attached to fuselage thingy.

Keep up the most spiffingly excellent of work.

Tally ho old chap!

Andrew

PS.... Can you tell me where I put my meds....I seemed to have misplaced them..... Most disconcerting....

 

[Allen Dewire]

Afternoon all,

I could have sworn I had posted an update, but it appears I didn't. Damn, old age I guess!!!

Tim and Jakko, I guess AB's are like autos and once you own one, you stick with it. Or if you buy another model, it takes time to get used to it. I have found while using my Iwata the second time, a way to hold it nicely in my hand. It surprised me and worked well. Now, I just have to control my fat forefinger on it for spray control. I have also looked at trigger AB's, but will stick with what I have for now and save money. They ain't cheap, for sure....

This confirms my earlier thoughts, you are indeed MAD, but clever.
Nice job Dude1

I've always been mad Buddy and you know that all too well. Thanks and clever.......Maybe sometimes...

Dude,
looking very fine mate some lovely work going on.

Thanks too Bro! It's been an interesting learning experience for sure...

Great progress Alan, the Halberstadt is really coming together.
I really like the look of the lozenge finish on German WW1 aircraft and the decals you’ve laid down really look the part. It seems that you’re going for the same scheme I will going for - great choice. Looking forward to seeing this complete your work thus far has been excellent and the finished model promises to be a real show stopper.
Cheers
Paul

Much appreciated Paul! I don't know about award winning, but I can tell you about more grey hairs though! Do you have the same kit in the stash? Are you planning on giving it a go? Would be cool if you do....

Mr Dewire

Just had a catch-up old chap. Apologies for the tardiness but ones studies have not been assistful in keeping up with this most splendid of kit assemblages.

The markings of all varieties are most delightful and one must be congratulated on their most satisfactory application.

One cannot wait for the wingy bits to be attached to fuselage thingy.

Keep up the most spiffingly excellent of work.

Tally ho old chap!

Andrew

PS.... Can you tell me where I put my meds....I seemed to have misplaced them..... Most disconcerting....

Uhh, Mr. Andrew, I'm afraid I can't say where your meds be or the last time you took some of them, Sir!!! I can say that I truly realize that your Laundering studies do have priority over a lot of things at this time. My build included...I'm retired and cannot keep up with half of the builds on this forum.

I firmly believe, once you have finished your studies and have made enough money, you should go into politics and become PM of the Insel. The only thing to consider would be finding a salon that could give you the same hairstyle as the old PM and Donald Trump. You Sir, would win the election hands down!!!...Thanks so much my friend for the kind words and compliments. If I could, I would definitely give you my vote.......

Now go and hit the books!!!...


Last week, I used the Iwata to spray a bit of white on the tail piece and found a way to hold it comfortably in my hand. Making the masks took 79 times longer than shooting the paint on it,


I cleaned it up a little and will have to go through the same nonsense of masking it over when I paint the fuselage. Luckily, the white paint comes off the rigging easily. A couple more pics,



I'm hoping when I glue the fin steering thing to the fin, the decal will not look so bad and off kilter...
After getting back from the show this weekend, I decided to drive on and play around with the rigging. Having the Gaspatch turnbuckles and the brass tubing from Albion, I played a bit. The turnbuckles are not correct, but the ones I wanted, weren't in stock. These will be cut/trimmed down and should work fine,


Threading the rigging through the 2mm long x 0.5mm tubing pieces and through the turnbuckle was pretty simple and easy. Getting the rigging back through the tubing was a Beatch and a half. Lots of patience and a steady hand paid off and we now have these,


These are for the main rigging on the wings to the fuselage. The strut rigging is shorter. The turnbuckles will be cut off about 3-4 mm from the open eyelets. They fit into the pre-made holes for them on the wings and fuselage. The rigging will be secured with a dab of CA on the tubing and the rest nipped off. More details of my plan when we get to that step...

That's all for today folks. Stammtisch shortly and I have a 1/1 project on the table to do too!!! Thanks again for your support and have a good one!!!...

Prost
Allen

 

[Ian M]

This is a really interesting build.
Love the decals on the wings.

 

[Mini Me]

Nice invasion stripes Allen!! :thumb2:

 

[yak face]

Super progress allen the stripy tail looks real neat. Keep up the outstanding work , cheers tony